By SUE LEEMAN, Associated Press Writer1 hour, 45 minutes ago A former British ambassador has published government documents he says prove that Britain knowingly received intelligence extracted under torture from prisoners in Uzbekistan. Craig Murray, who was removed as ambassador to Uzbekistan after going public about his concerns, defied a Foreign Office ban to publish the internal memos on his Web site Friday. The documents include memos to Foreign Office chiefs in which Murray expressed his concern over the use of "torture material."
In one memo, Murray said he was told by Foreign Office legal adviser Sir Michael Wood that it was not illegal to use information acquired by torture, except in legal proceedings. Intelligence officer Matthew Kydd had also told him the intelligence services sometimes found such material "very useful indeed, with a direct bearing on the war on terror," he said.
Murray said that even after he alerted his bosses to his concerns, they continued to use material allegedly gained under torture "on the grounds that the UK could not prove that individual detainees were tortured to extract information."
"I have dealt with hundreds of individual cases of political or religious prisoners in Uzbekistan, and I have met with very few where torture, as defined in the U.N. convention, was not employed," he wrote.
A Foreign Office spokesman said Friday that while Britain condemns the use of torture, it would be "irresponsible" for the intelligence services to reject out of hand information which might protect British citizens from a terror attack. The spokesman spoke on condition of anonymity in keeping with government policy.
Uzbekistan has put more than 6,000 political prisoners in squalid jails where dozens of people have reportedly died of torture over the past several years, according to rights groups. But the central Asian country emerged as a key U.S. ally after the Sept. 11 attacks in the United States, and had hosted hundreds of American troops supporting operations in neighboring Afghanistan until last month.
Hard-line President Islam Karimov had ordered the U.S. troops to leave in July after Washington joined international condemnation of a bloody government crackdown in the eastern city of Andijan that human rights groups say killed hundreds of civilians.
AMERICANS...ALL OF US...BROTHERS AND SISTERS OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA...I CALL ON YOU TO PUT AWAY THE LABELS, PUT AWAY THE RHETORIC, PUT AWAY THE PARTISANSHIP...WE ARE ALLLLLL AMERICANS...ALWAYS AS ONE WE HAVE UNITED IN THE FACE OF DANGER AND TOGETHER WE HAVE CHANGED THE WORLD.
I ASK YOU ALL TO NAME IT FOR WHAT IT IS...HIGH CRIMES AND MISDEMEANORS!!! THOSE WHO HATE OUR LIBERTIES ARE WATCHING OUR OWN BEING TAKEN AWAY FROM US IN THE NAME OF TERRORISM. IF WE LET THIS HAPPEN, THEY HAVE WON AND EACH ONE OF US IS GOING TO PAY THE PRICE...RICH, POOR, MIDDLECLASS, DETAINED CITIZENS, SPIED UPON CITIZENS, ELDERLY, CHILDREN, THE ILL..ALL GOD'S CHILDREN...OUR BILL OF RIGHTS IS BEING SHREDDED IN FRONT OF OUR FACES.
I AM SPEAKING TO YOU, TOO, ON THE RIGHT...THE REPUBLICANS, THE NEO-CONSERVATIVES, THOSE WHO IN THEIR HEARTS KNOW BUT ARE AFRAID TO SPEAK IT OUT LOUD...WE ARE BEING HARMED!!!
OUR CONSTITUTION WAS CALLED "A GODDAMED PIECE OF PAPER.' BY THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. PLEASE IN GOD'S NAME WILL YOU UNDERSTAND THAT? WE WERE MANIPULATED, TERRORIZED TO DEATH. IT IS TIME TO REMOVE THE FEAR!!! IT IS IN OUR BLOOD THAT WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS "NOTHING TO FEAR BUT FEAR ITSELF.
I INVITE YOU ALL TO TAKE MY OWN SIGNATURE LINE BELOW, 'HIGH CRIMES AND MISDEMEANORS' AND EMBRACE IT AS YOUR OWN. LET US SHOW UNITY. LET US NOT BE DIVIDED EVER AGAIN. LET US SHOW OUR UNITY IN THESE WORDS, CALLING IT ALL FOR WHAT IT IS:
HIGH CRIMES AND MISDEAMORS!!!
For those of you who cannot get to a place where your voice can be heard, this is a way we can be united, in one, loud, clear voice. TOGETHER NOW:
Let this be our mantra. Let this be spoken aloud daily. Let there be no person you encounter where this does not pass your lips. NOT ONE DAY may this pass our attention. EMBRACE and ENGRAVE it into the fabric of your being. HIGH CRIMES AND MISDEMEANORS!!!
'GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH!" Patrick Henry.
We have something to fear all right but it's not what you might think. This Administration is a huge rat caught in a trap and these thugs will do anything to stay in power. This latest shredding of the Constitution and abuse of power along with the veiled Novak accusation that the President knows who leaked Valerie Plame's name to the same reporter, Novak himself, could potentially be the straws that break this administration's back. We are all at risk. Lies, lies, and more lies. Make your disaster plans and hope for the best, unite as Americans in every way possible; refresh our memories with the history of who WE the People are and reclaim our democracy. Forget about right, forget about left, forget Republicans and Dems alike...we are bigger than all of that. Remember the words of Patick Henry, and the sentiments of all of our Founders: "Give me liberty or give me death." We cannot bring liberty to a peoples when we are on the verge of losing our own. If we truly are the people of God that so many claim to be, then now is the time to act like it. Live it. Breathe it with one another. No more fighting each other. We have a country to save. We have to get all of them out of power, legally and peacefully...all those who are living a luxury life on our hard earned money while our own brothers and sisters languish in New Orleans and Mississippi...the children.. There are many out here who could run for office with no experience and no money to begin with and do the jobs they do...What is it they do anyway? They certainly don't represent us. They want to torture. They want to give more tax cuts to the rich; charge us more to live. Destroy our planet with rulings always in favor of the corporations; they want us ill and unable to afford medicines that are inadequately tested. They want us to receive care from healthcare providers that is dangerous because of the financial constraints insurance companies have placed upon them reducing patient/staff ratios, lowering their reimbursment rates while increasing the cost of care and keeping the profits for themselves. I am a nurse. I know.
Pay attention to the internet media...all the cable networks lie. They are owned by only a few corporations. What does that suggest to you? Propaganda is their product. Read newspapers, talk to one another. Pay down your personal debts. Help all those you can so we can reconnect as citizens of this country. And pray. To whatever God you believe in, pray. And beg that He/She/It or Whatever will show Mercy on our Souls. We are giving our permission to genocide. Each and every time we pay a tax. Each and every time we let our legislators go unchallenged. Each and every time we accept another rise in gasoline and heating oil prices. Each and every time we remain silent as Diebold moves to our state. Each and every time we think supporting our troops means slapping a yellow magnet on our trunk. So long as someone is out there fighting for an illegal war while we can have fun driving around to obtain the goods that support our selfish status quo, we spit upon our troops. In the name of that God you claim to believe in, it must stop. We must stop. We must fix it. Take ownership of all we have done, forgive each other and then speak with one voice: "Give me liberty...or give me death." Then we will know what to do. Peace to all in the season of The Peacemaker, Mary
We go along and go along and go along but some days, you read something that you might ordinarily note and file and it suddenly hits you that this time, you just can't overlook it and before you know it, you're ranting and raving like a "left wing whack job." Today was one of those days for me. This week on Hardball, the nightly news porn show in cable prime time, Chris Matthews served us up this lovely piece of trash that almost blew my tv through my window. He said as quoted by Media Matters: On the November 28 edition of MSNBC's Hardball, host Chris Matthews said of President Bush: "I like him. Everybody sort of likes the president, except for the real whack-jobs, maybe on the left." Since polls show that most Americans have an unfavorable view of the president, Matthews is labeling the majority of the populace "whack-jobs." This is only one of several recent examples of Matthews's habit of insulting those with whom he disagrees and of his fawning praise for Bush. Matthews's comments demonstrate his disconnect from the American public.
So, as I said, today being one of those days, I fired this off to all of the MSNBC addresses I could find...it's not pretty...but I invite you to let them know what your thoughts are about this abuse of journalism and I'd be willing to bet if you do, it won't be pretty either! My letter as follows:
I am so sick and tired and fed up of listening to this pasty- faced doughboy drool, cheerlead and kiss the behind of the most notorious, ignominious, illicit, illegitimate and duplicitous man who has ever graced our once beautiful, meaningful and precious democracy.
What Matthews does each and every night to this un-president is what Monica did for President Clinton and you can take it to the bank that you are losing viewers because of it. We're not stupid here in real America and that's something you faux news-people have "misunderestimated."
So, I suggest that if you want to remain the curiously viable and competitive phony news operation that you are, your best bet is to fire this incompetent Matthews immediately. I do NOT share his opinion that "everybody" likes this president. I don't like liars and I don't like gangsters and thugs...especially when they have taken over our government. And make no mistake about it..I am no left wing "whack job" and I take great offense to Matthews' labeling Americans who can think for themselves as such. I am a well-respected Registered Nurse and when I think of this charlatan Matthews posing as some kind of professional, it literally makes me sick. He dares to call those of us who disagree with the Rape and Plundering of the Former United States of America as "whack jobs?" And YOU do nothing about that? And, for the record, my specialty in nursing happens to be Psychiatry. Please tell me, what credentials to assess mental status does the self-admitted, recovering alcoholic Chris Matthews hold to determine that ANYONE is a "whack job?"
I do have a big mouth for sure and you can be certain I'll be using it to communicate to vast amounts of folks that MSNBC should be eliminated from their channel surfing.
Fire him. And then clean your act up. I once worked for General Electric and I know what you're really all about.